a Meaningful Life with Simon Jacobson
Radio Show Transcript - February 4, 2001
Rabbi Simon Jacobson: Good evening and
welcome to another edition of Toward a Meaningful Life.
Were on every Sunday from 6-7pm on WEVD 1050AM, talking
about your life and our lives and how to find deeper meaning.
The basis and principles of this show have always
been that the architect of life, G-d, gave us a blueprint
that allows us to illuminate and access our inner psyches
and our inner selves. By looking into that blueprint, we can
learn to align our outer lives with our inner lives and thus
find deeper meaning.
As always, I always appreciate your calls and
Tonight, Im honored to have a special
guest, but first let me give you some background into the
subject well be discussing. One of the big things that
you hear about lately is the interface between areas and schools
of thought that once were seen as mutually exclusive, whether
its science and faith, faith and reason, and of course
medicine and the spirituality of healing.
Healing and spirituality is a topic that Ive
always wanted to address on this show. Recently, especially
in the last few decades, a lot of talk, books, shows have
focused on the mind, spirit and healing, and how faith plays
a role in all of this. Of course skeptics will ask whether
this is real or just what people want to believe.
So tonights show is called Healing
and Spirituality; finding insights into meaningful healing
as opposed to symptomatic healing. The guest Ive invited
on, whom Im sure will inspire and also enlighten us
all, is a man called Herschel Lazaroff, who is a gifted man
on a mission. His website describes him as: using techniques
culled from a number of sourcespsychics, quantum mechanics,
bau-biology, kinesiology. He serves as a conduit for
healing energy and has been acclaimed by many people, both
skeptics and believers, as someone who has been effective.
Ive heard good things about him, so I
felt it was appropriate and an honor to have him on the show.
So let me welcome Hershel. Hershel is based in Baltimore,
Maryland and he uses Torah and spirituality in active healing
and helping people. How many years have you been working in
Herschel Lazaroff: Approximately five
years. Im from the Midwest and I went to school in Ann
Arbor, the University of Michigan. I found that there is a
spiritual component to my unnourished spiritual side when
I was in school, and after I left Ann Arbor and moved to the
East Coast in order to strike it rich with the
other half that I now have called the wife, I became involved
in food, healing with food. My wife, who is a physical therapist,
got me involved in a form of energy work called Health Kinesiology,
which is a process of accessing information from the body
using a muscle-testing device and employing different forms
of pressure and batteries, etc., to open up blocks we have
in our body to heal. It is similar to what someone would do
perhaps if you went to an acupuncturist or someone who practices
Now to give some background, when I came out
to the East Coast, I did have a commercial whole wheat organic
bakery and I loved to bake challahs, which is braided
bread used for the seventh day in the Jewish holiday, the
Sabbath. I made Jacobs Table Challah: From my
table to yours
a challah that rises to the occasion.
So I was hands-on. But if people ended up looking
like my challahs, either overbaked or with too many
seeds on top, it wouldnt be good!
Jacobson: Or overinflated.
Lazaroff: Yeah, well thats why
we have matzahs, because you have to have a balancethe
duality of life, challahs or matzahs.
But I found that there is a form of healing
called Healing the Thought and I said, Wow,
what a novel way to work with people. And once I realized
that this is a valid modality I wanted to try it. But it wasnt
enough for me, so I went back to my background in particle
physics and saw that energy could be moved in many different
ways; its been shown that you can heal with thoughts,
and prayer is a thought. You can have a wishful prayer for
someone and somehow that person may end up being healed. This
has been quantified. People may know the work that Dr. Larry
Dossey has done in statistically quantifying the power
of prayer to heal others. There is a statistically significant
percentage of people who are healed vis-à-vis prayer.
So if you have a thought, is that enough? Well,
I found that theres more than just a thought. Its
not just what you think, its how you think. You
know the old adage, If you think good it will be good.
And maybe from this emanated the first person who started
psycho-immunology: mind over matter, or in scientific terms,
mind over what matters, perhaps.
Jacobson: Lawrence Taylor, the
linebacker of the New York Giants, was once asked about playing
while he was injured and he responded, Its mind
over matter. If you dont mind, it doesnt matter.
Lazaroff: Thats right. It only
jacks up the orthopedic bills, which is very good! By the
way, I was a fullback on my high school football team. And
things did matter to me.
Jacobson: So you developed the idea that
thought and how you think affects the actual energy flow?
Lazaroff: Exactly. Thoughts and energy
flow are connected. Whether we have a good thought or a negative
thought does affect how we feel. Negative thoughts have been
shown to actually weaken you, deplete your production of T-cells
or thymus cells which affect the immune system or vasoconstrictors.
Positive thoughts have the opposite effect. Positive thoughts
produce endorphins and serotonin which make you feel good.
If you can engender in someone the concept of
thinking good and it will be good, that starts a new field
of healing. Once you think you can be healed, and know that
you can be healed, it sets everything in motion. Its
part of an overall Divine plan that we know about because
the architect of life, whom I will call G-d, looked into a
blueprint, which I will call Torah, and told us: Im
going to create the remedy before I create the illness. So
you know theres a way out.
Jacobson: In a sense, built into every
illness is a cure.
Lazaroff: The possibility to be cured
is built in but you have to look.
Jacobson: About your background, did
you grow up with Torah?
Lazaroff: I grew up with a modified form
of the blueprint, and sometimes when you modify a blueprint,
the house isnt exactly what you would like to have.
So yes, I did have some semblance of a kosher home, so to
speak. We had dairy and meat and sometimes the dairy and meat
would mix. And we did have Shabbos candles and I did have
a bar mitzvah and I think I put tefillin on once right
after my bar mitzvah and then I found a safe deposit box for
them so they wouldnt get worn out G-d forbid
they should lose their lustre!
I was introduced to spirituality by an adherent
of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement in Ann Arbor who made me
aware that theres something more in life than just the
physical, tangible, that you can just taste or touch. By realizing
that there is a means to enable you to open your eyes and
see something other than physical, that got me to look
and I looked at what I knew best, atoms and molecules.
Jacobson: Youre a trained physicist
Lazaroff: Correct. It came to
me that if molecules are composed of atoms, and theres
something called sub-atomic particles which by definition
arent really particles, because a particle is what?
Something that has some sort of even miniscular space,
by definition, even if its a nanometer. to come
into being at some place at some time. So if what I am made
of, so to speak, is some sort of quantum field that may or
may not come into being, then am I here or not here? Well
obviously I am here.
I realized that maybe spirituality based on
this context has a basis in quantum field theory, quantum
mechanics, and that Einsteins theory of E=mc2 has
another meaning, or it could be emunah, faith!
Jacobson: Let me ask you another question.
What do you say to most physicists or scientists who dont
necessarily make that bridge and they in a sense limit their
research to the physical or, lets call it the sub-atomic
level of the physical or quantum?
You made this bridge, and not just philosophically,
because you work with healing. Clearly you see the energy
of thoughts as a true bridge, as you said, think good and
it will be good, that good thoughts actually affect your energy
flow. What do you say to the skeptic or physicist and so many
others who continue to maintain that theyre either atheists
or agnostics or dont necessarily make that jump?
Lazaroff: One can be a good observer,
which doesnt mean youre a good interpreter. So
you have a lot of facts, but how do you interpret those facts?
An article I read recently, which I think was penned by Dr.
Larry Dossey, talks about people who are meaning challenged,
which means that you see all these events but how do you connect
them? And whats the cause of all of these events?
Jacobson: Lets go back for a second
and reconnect it to the theme of the show. The bottom
line is that many people talk about Torah or their experience
with G-d or religion and see it at best as some type of traditional
heritage: you sit at a Seder table or you go to Yom
Kippur services, either out of guilt or out of responsibility
or compulsion. Or people dont go at all because they
think its irrelevant. And seeing that you discovered
in Torah, and the spirit of Torah, the things youre
describing, and actually working with itworking on the
principles of discovering in this blueprint ways of helping
people grow and healclearly demonstrates in a very powerful
way the role of G-d or the role of spirit in healing.
This is something that medicine may be acknowledging,
but it has not yet become the cornerstone of healing.
I mean, if one were to say that G-d is the ultimate healer,
as it says in Torah, Ani Hashem refoecha,
I, G-d, am your healer, and G-d gives the power
of healing to human beings through doctors and through healers,
then clearly its not some incidental factor. Thats
where the heart of healing lies.
So Id like your reactions to that: first
of all, the medical community at large and how you see the
future evolving in that direction, and the crucial role that
spirit plays in even physical medicine and all forms of it.
Lazaroff: Well, thats a very good
point, Simon. Recently its been brought to my attention
that there are actually devices that seem to be able to measure
that which is not merely physical.
Over the summer, when I was in Toronto, it was
brought to my attention that there was a program on the Oprah
Show where some doctors and scientists created a very sophisticated
device that can determine up to three years in advance what
major illness you may have and they put you through very specific
protocols and drugs to stave off this very major illness.
They noticed something unusual in the tissue as part of this
analysis that is not defined as physical, and they called
it spiritual. And along with all the physical protocols and
modalities and adjunctives administered in the clinical setting
to whomever, theres also a group of spiritual gurus
that come in that help everything stick.
Now, whats employed may vary from practitioner
to practitioner but its there, its known, its
been televised. Recently in the last week I spoke to someone
who has the device and is able to analyze emotional, physical,
and what he calls the spiritual, and when I asked,
Whats your definition of the spiritual?
part of what came up in simple terms is, That which
is beyond the pale of understanding; thats why I use
my computer. And so, who programmed your computer? And
so if its not G-d, then how do you get out the spiritual?
In pure, absolute terms, the real question is, can anything
physical really measure the spiritual?
One of the reasons that scientists wanted to
see the $7 billion linear accelerator built somewhere in America
was to find that there is a building block in nature beyond
the physical that they knew was G-dly and spiritual. By definition,
we cant break apart the physical in order to see the
spiritual, but there is a way. And I call that way non-cognitive
reality because you can use your mind to ascertain
many sentient things. However, beyond that, what can you do
with your mind? Can you see the spiritual? Can you touch the
This is where the knowledge of Torah can come
in, or even on a more rarefied level, the knowledge of the
esoteric in Torah, beyond what is printed, but that which
was received in a realm called Kabbalah, that talks about
this interface at great length.
And the knowledge that we have the means to
move the spirit so to speak in order to heal. Thats
how G-d planned it.
Jacobson: Let me give you one question
to think about over the break. You were saying how good thoughts
actually change your energy. The thing is, there are some
people who simply cannot bring themselves to have good thoughts,
either due to the haunting scars of their childhood or other
issues like low self-esteem. Id like to know what you
do when you cant control your thoughts.
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Jacobson: Okay, were back with
Herschel Lazaroff. Ive heard some of the reactions of
some of the people that youve helped, and you cant
argue with success, even if youre a skeptic like me!
But Id like to hear your thoughts on the question I
asked you. The line you quoted is from the Tzemach Tzedek,
a Chassidic Rebbe, who said, Think good and it will
be good. Clearly its not just a nice little thought,
it has, as you so eloquently described, very practical application.
What about a person who just cant bring
himself to think well or cant think good thoughts? Im
not looking for a quick gimmick, because I know theres
no quick answer to that, but how do you address that?
Lazaroff: Its a very good question.
The first thing I try to establish is knowing that the entire
plan of creation is predicated on good, on love that
everything is good. Chessed olam yiboneh. G-d created
everything with goodness and kindness. And thats the
basis for creation.
Now it may be trite to say in all circumstances
this is also good, (as someone in the past is
quoted as always saying: Gamzu letova,
This too is good) because how do you see the good
in very complicated or traumatic issues that have occurred
in our own lives and instances? Thats problematic.
So once you establish that everything has a
basis rooted in good, what I want people to establish in their
own lives is something called flow. Things should
go easily. Things should come to you and you shouldnt
have to scramble to make another dollar, to make this relationship
always come out the way youd like it to come out through
arduous labor. When you know it could happen and it could
come to you because you have this as your goal, then part
of the success is knowing that this success is a gradual process
and there are ups and downs, thats part of life.
But by thinking good you accomplish two things:
You can actualize your goal and help avoid and mitigate tremendously
the number of negative influences in your life. Like a laser.
Cutting through the vicissitudes and exigencies in
life in order to reach that goal.
Sometimes the outcome may not be what you had
in mind, but by thinking good you employ the powers of healing
and the accessible forces in the cosmos that can make it happen
for us in a very tangible, profound way of revealed good.
Jacobson: You know, thats the Catch-22:
a prisoner cant free him or herself. Obviously thats
where the role of the healer comes into play. If we could
just make a statement to the world, Think good and it
will be good, and find the good in everything,
nobody would need any healers because people could just access
But if a person is in that Catch-22 situation
where they cant bring themselves to think that way,
what do you do? Is it just a matter of education? Do you spend
time inspiring them and just saturating them with good thoughts?
Lazaroff: Thats a very good point.
Let me put it to you this way. I dont believe that one
modality or protocol can help one individual. Usually, theres
a team approach, a multi-disciplinary approach, whether youre
going to your doctor whos conventionally trained, or
to a complementary specialist of some form or another. Theres
usually a team effort.
If you look into the Torah as a source of how
doctors have their supernal license for healing,
youll see that G-d gave license to humans in the form
of vrapeh, yrapeh which means
You will heal. And this is how physicians
came about so to speak.
Its also known that in a specific time
and a specific place a certain person using specific drugs,
herbs or modalities can get better. But what if you want to
speed up the process and find a catalyst? If you look at the
numerical value of the words vrapeh, yrapeh
youll see that its the same as pidyon nefesh,
giving over your soul to someone whos inspiring that
can help you, that catalyst is inspiration.
If youre spiritually inspired and know
that theres more to life than just what you see and
feel and touch (and that its also inside of us which
we access through the actions that we do every day in a spiritually
meaningful way vis-à-vis the 613 commandments that are incumbent
upon Jews and the 7 Laws of Noah that are incumbent upon non-Jews),
then we have another framework for looking into how to do
what I do to engender a sense of stability, psychological
calm, tranquility, and peace. But also it brings meaning,
and we all search for meaning. Its the meaningful acts
that bring meaning to our lives.
Jacobson: So its not just introducing
thoughts, its also introducing modalities of behavior
to actually open up channels.
So in your own experience, how have you seen
this process demonstrated, or things that have affected you
most deeply, or resonated in these spiritual parallels in
the healing process? And what are some of the methods that
Lazaroff: In creation, there is something
called a leitmotif. This can be witnessed whether you look
at the field of physics (the science of the unified field
theory, a theory connecting all forms of measurable energy
and forces in the world), or whether you look in linguistics
where there are deep structures as Noam Chomsky, a
linguist, calls them, and other fields.
Theres a reason why sparrows go to Capistrano
and not to Martinique. Its not because they got
a better deal from some travel agent. Our Sages have taught
us that the fabric of creation has something in it called
spiritual DNA which is an antecedent to the physical DNA.
Its known in the teachings of Kabbalah that there are
Sefirot, ten spheres of spiritual influence that make
up the structure of spiritual existence. As an analogy, people
have heard the term chakras from the Eastern approach,
these confluences of energy that are in our body. In my own
system I would use this spiritual DNA described by our Sages
as a means of determining what makes a person click. The basis
for this is seeing if a persons energy is in tune with
his or her higher self or not. But then, what do you do to
maintain the balance of your spiritual DNA? We all have one
of one form or another. Some people love to give a lot of
money to charity. Some people are very careful with what they
eat vis-à-vis keeping the laws of kosher. Some people like
to have big mezuzahs up on their doors and others take solace
in helping someone get a job.
This is what adds meaning to our lives. Once
people see that theres a spiritual side and a physical
side, and that the two synergistically come together, that
creates the jump start. As a matter of fact, a friend of yours
came to me recently and said, I see a great logo for
you. You have this guy with two cables: one hooked up to you
and one to the guy, and thats the jump start.
And thats true. But the jumpstart only lasts as long
as your motivationand what motivates a person differs
from individual to individual, because each human is different.
No two snowflakes in the universe are the same; no two individuals
are the same. We all need a different prescription. There
are scientific studies that actually corroborate the fact
that two people with identical illnesses need totally different
protocols and modalities in order to heal.
Jacobson: Thats the motivational
side. What about the maintenance side?
Lazaroff: Unfortunately, people often
spend more time maintaining their cars than themselves. But
theres actually a very specific mitzvah in the Torah
which is, you have to maintain yourself to be healthy. Its
a mitzvah to be healthy, to take care of yourself.
As a matter of fact, I once wrote in to the
Rebbe about creating a program for executives about eating
healthy foods based upon macrobiotics, and the answer I received
was actually that night in a public speech of the Rebbe, in
whats known as a farbrengen, at Lubavitch World
Headquarters, 770 Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn. He said, in
part of the 20-minute speech which answered my question, that
in order to have a healthy body, you need to have a healthy
soul. But first you need to have a healthy body. The soul
needs to be healthy also, but he emphasized the body. You
are what you eat. And based upon what we discussed earlier,
you are what you think!
And so if youre eating well and youre
thinking good thoughts, then you can start to develop a maintenance
program between what you think (which requires the proper
meditation: meditation can be kosher or not kosher also) to
how you dress, what kind of air you breathe, supplements you
take, and of course prayer. Prayer is important.
Jacobson: So how would you distinguish
between your method of healing using Torah and what you would
call a successful secular healer. In other words, how does
G-d and Torah and mitzvahs actually contribute more than what
well call secular spirituality?
Lazaroff: Let me reframe that. Lets
say you take two people who are healed. One did it the way
youve just depicted, through a secular healer
as you put it, and another used my approach, or a Torah approach
(its not my approach, because there are many
people who heal using other modalities that are in the spiritual
realm, not just what Im doing). Whats the difference?
You have two people who are healedtheyre healed!
The symptoms that they initially presented are gone.
The way I like to look at it is this. But first
let me preface it with something someone once said to me
about the effect of making a blessing over food.
The person happened to be a psychic (he was
also actually observant), and he happened to see things. He
saw light go into his wife when she made a blessing and light
go up out of his wife after the blessing. Light. Thats
the difference. The word for blessing in the formulaic version
we use is Boruch, Blessed art Thou
Making a blessing on whatever youre eating or doing
whatever mitzvah starts formulaically with the word Boruch.
Boruch is also related to the word to bring down or
draw down light. And so, ultimately, when you heal, vis-à-vis
a spiritual modality (I personally believe this from what
Ive seen and what Ive learned from my masters)
we bring in a new form of light to the world that not only
raises the consciousness of the person being healed but also
of those around him or her and the world at large. I think
thats the difference.
Jacobson: It always seemed to me that
the concept of G-d as opposed to spirituality always had the
component of humility, as opposed to selfish self-actualization.
Many spiritual people are just arrogant, but theyre
arrogant through spirituality.
I guess humility is a big factor. We alluded
to it earlier but in the sense that healing is more of a channeling
than a creating. Its not you or I or anyone who can
create anything, and humility has a big impact on this whole
Have you seen that in actuality?
Lazaroff: Yes I have. If you want to
talk about humility we can go back to the forerunner
of humility, and thats Moses. He was the most humble
of all people and look how great he was. So he was humble
but he knew his worth; he knew who he was.
And so from a healing perspective, giving has
a lot to do with healing. When youre employing these
methodologies, a significant part is imparted to whom youre
helping, because you have the desire to give over what youve
been given. Lets say its a G-d-given authority
and a G-d-given talent and strength, a koach (power),
and by doing good in other realms in your life, that engenders
an ability in the healer to give over more of this universal,
divine energy in order to promote a change.
Jacobson: Does any case study come to
mind, something that inspired you or moved you deeply?
Lazaroff: Ill give one or two.
One is with a woman, and part of the process deals with looking
at which mitzvah or two could be beneficial in helping you.
Jacobson: Was this a secular woman?
Lazaroff: Yes. I said to her, why dont
you light candles for Shabbos? And she said, you know, I was
married for many years and Ive been divorced for an
equal number of years and I used to light candles when I was
married. Since I got divorced I stopped. And on top of that
I live in a small apartment and I have pets that could knock
over the candles. It could be a dangerous situation. I dont
know if I could do it. And on top of all that, Im really
So I said to this woman, you know, I dont
know if youre Reform. Lets say youre uninformed
and you cant make an objective decision without sufficient
information. So she said, all right. I mean, she couldnt
argue with the fact!
At that time she was going on a vacation somewhere,
either Tahiti or Hawaii, and when she came back, she called
me and said, Hershel, I lit candles and it had an impact.
It changed my life. And I said, Why is it different
now than when you used to light candles years ago? Well,
with everything else that we talked about and the blocks I
had, issues with whomever, and the homework you gave me, I
started to light candles and I saw a new light. I just felt
this energy come to me and this peace. I never had such peace.
And Im calm. I took a dose of Shabbos candles and thats
what did it.
Jacobson: And that unblocked her?
Lazaroff: That was part of it. That deals
with the spiritual blocks, although there are other instances
where Ive worked with more tangible blocks, but I think
youre referring to more of a spiritual block?
Jacobson: Not necessarily. Give another
example of something that didnt involve a spiritual
Lazaroff: Okay, I had a woman come to
me. She and her husband were trying to have children for 18
years, and when I worked with her it came out that she had
an issue with a high school classmate years ago. It seemed
very innocuous and to the average bystander, who would care
if so and so did something to me that was so innocuous? It
came and went in a heartbeat.
And we dissected it for about half an hour and
the energy release was so powerful I almost flew out of my
chair. She took to heart what came out through the session.
Her husband took it to heart and he put over their entire
apartment the words, Think good and it will be good.
Within two weeks she conceived. The baby is now a couple of
Jacobson: Okay, were going to take
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Jacobson: Were back with Herschel
Lazaroff. Obviously were going to need you on other
shows because theres so much to talk about. We have
Marsha on line one.
Caller: Hi. I was raised like you were,
and about 20 years ago I became little by little more frum
(religious) and before that I had been interested in yoga
and meditation. At this point I feel like I want to combine
the two, like I want to go back to doing meditation and yoga.
Lazaroff: You sound like my wife! We
had this talk before I left this morning.
Caller: My question is, is it kosher
to do that? Ive been doing it lately and once I went
to a Jewish Meditation Workshop and the man just talked so
much, we couldnt meditate.
Lazaroff: Well, I could teach you a very
simple meditation. Meditation does work and if you pray every
day, thats also meditation, but if you need something
a little more formulaic, you could meditate on the word shalom.
When you breathe in, have in mind the syllable sha,
and when you breathe out have in mind the syllable lom.
Thats a great starter. But if youve done meditation,
you may want something a little more involved. Does that sound
Caller: No this sounds good because this
would be something good to focus on and then I would feel
like its a Jewish thing. I wouldnt question it.
Lazaroff: Well, shalom means peace,
G-d, good-bye, hello. So thats a good start. If you
want something a little more complicated, call back after
the show. There are derivatives of the way shalom is
spelled and you can put the different letters in different
parts of your body and have it affect you in more profound
Caller: Like if I use another word like
om, is that not kosher?
Lazaroff: Well, some of these words that
people use in TM come from deities, and because they meditate
on something that may have been used for idol worship, its
questionable and its better to stay with a safe word.
Jacobson: We have Lorraine on the phone.
Caller: I live in Riverdale, and what
I really want to know is how I can find a Chassidic synagogue
that also says the prayers in English, because my philosophy
is most in line with the Chassidim. When I go to a regular
synagogue, I get depressed.
Jacobson: So Lorraine, stay on the line
and Ill have Philip, the producer of the show, take
your name and number, and well put you in touch with
someone. But I appreciate your call. Lets go to Shifra.
Caller: I have had the merit of learning
Torah and always had a very good body image as a teenager
but then in my studying I felt that my body was a temple,
and when I said berachas I did feel that light. But
as the Rabbi knows, I had an operation and I asked my doctor
how many stitches I had and I had 26, which is the numerical
equivalent of the name of Hashem, but I feel that now my body
has been desecrated and I think I really went into a little
depression. In other words, my temple in the operation has
been cut and I wanted to share this with you and what you
would suggest for people who have had operations and if they
feel deeply that their body is a Beis HaMikdash, not only
the body image but how to get that feeling. Im sure
I had a trauma, it was an emergency situation, but I feel
that the Beis HaMikdash should become whole again.
Lazaroff: Thats a very good question,
Shifra. I dont know if I can answer the question in
brief, but I hope you find this satisfying. Yes, indeed, our
body is considered holy and a temple in which G-d resides,
but when its necessary and when youve gone through
the means of working with the approved medical establishment
methods, which it sounds like youve done (and these
people have been licensed by G-d to heal), its a necessary
process in the overall scheme of things. Lets call it
hashgacha pratis, that you went to this doctor at this
hospital at a certain time and you needed this as part of
your maturational growth on the physical and spiritual and
emotional plane. Of course if you feel violated in any way,
I wouldnt discount it, but knowing that its part
of G-ds plan and youre doing all you can to maintain
what you have through G-ds licensed practitioners, you
should feel good that you have your strength and your energy
back to take care of yourself and your family and G-d should
give you many more years of feeling good about yourself and
others, and be careful.
Jacobson: Okay, lets go to Cathy
on the air.
Caller: Hello. I have an awful lot of
bad habits. Im counting all the time. I cant stop
counting. I would like to be able to meditate. Im very
religious. I go to church every morning. Im Catholic
but I dont know how to meditate.
Lazaroff: Well the fact that youre
always counting is good because things that are important
in your life, you count, so you obviously you find many things
of meaning in your life. You probably have been listening
to this show for a long time and have found meaning in everything.
And so if you want to meditate, the suggestion I gave the
young lady a while ago was to use the word shalom.
You may use another word if you like, something that resonates
with you, and have that in mind. And have in mind that youre
taking the powers of your soul to another realm and this realm
you are uniting with what you understand G-ds light
to be, and specifically, G-d without intermediaries.
Jacobson: Thank you. Lets go to
Caller: I was wondering if you could
tell me the effect of health and healing for lets say
anxiety and depression and what it has to do with changing
your name. Lets say if your name is not one of the root
soul names like Moses or, you know, a lot of todays
Hebrew names are not really American names, there more like
Tzippy or whatever, in order to effect overall
Lazaroff: Well, youve asked two
questions. One is specifically about an issue, anxiety and
depression, and the other is about a name change. A name change
does help in healing and you can go to your local Orthodox
rabbi and ask for an appropriate name some names are
more appropriate than others. And if you feel and he feels
also that it would be beneficial for you, that indeed could
be a first step in healing. I would still seek professional
bona fide, approved practitioners, whether its a psychologist
or a psychiatrist, or others in the alternative realm who
can give you assistance, but I would look to professionals
first in addition to seeking a name change. You should be
comforted and things should go well for you, and Ill
give you a blessing for an immediate, speedy recovery.
Caller: Thank you. Could you tell me
what causes, especially that its so prevalent today,
anxiety and depression? What is the root cause of it and what
mitzvah can you do to help alleviate it?
Lazaroff: Well, its known that
simchah poretz geder, joy breaks through all boundaries.
I would like, inside of setting up an ideology, what you can
do to shift out of it in a very practical way, which is being
bsimchah, being happy. There are people who can
show you that step by step because every person is different
from any other person and the causes of why you are the way
you are are different from someone else with a similar issue.
So it takes a professional to understand why you are the way
you are versus someone else and to give you a specific methodology
and establish a program or regimen or what to do, your hishtadlus,
your homework so to speak, to help you reach a form of mental
Jacobson: We have David on the line.
Caller: Thanks a lot Rabbi and Herschel.
This show has been a fantastic continuation of my day. I struggled
through tefillin this morning with getting over some
surgery in my neck. We have Leibel Wolf from Australia coming
to talk to us tonight at our Chabad House and he of course
has done a lot of meditation tapes.
My question is this. If we have these struggles
that we carry around, excess baggage
it says in this
weeks parsha that after 40 years a man attains
a full grasp of his knowledge. Does that mean we have to work
on this thing for 40 years when we start to learn? Or does
it mean 40 years of age? I mean, do I have to wait until Im
88 before I get a full grasp?
Lazaroff: Real quickly, the answer is
hamaaseh hu haikar, the essential thing is to
just do it. You dont have to wait because the benefits
Jacobson: Particularly when sometimes
the 40 years are cumulative: it could be perhaps in the merit
of your parents and grandparents who have already done the
work. Remember, we live in a generation where we suffered
greatly, and collective pain works in a great way. G-d counts
all those years together, so we have many more than 40 years
Lets go to Ellen.
Caller: Hello Rabbi. I have a suggestion
for Shifra, who asked something earlier. Theres a little
prayer that I say every morning and it goes, In my heart
I will erect a sanctuary to glorify His honor, and in the
sanctuary I will place an altar to the glories of the splendor
for the eternal light I will testify for the sacrifice for
my soul, my unique soul. So if she prays in her heart,
the rest of her body will just follow through.
Jacobson: Thats very kind of you.
Caller: And the other thing is that for
the lady whos counting, she means that she counts numbers
and that is an obsessive-compulsive thing and there are many
medications that can help her. When I say my prayers, I say
a general G-d bless my family, but then I get
specific and I say, please help her with her pregnancy, please
help her with her diabetes, and I get specific. I start feeling
like Im directing G-d to what I want instead of letting
it be G-ds judgment, so is it right to pray specifically
in addition to a general prayer?
Lazaroff: That is actually a really good
question because even though I mentioned studies where prayer
(tefillah) does work, when youre specific you
actually bring down a more refined light and you direct that
energy more specifically, and that, in my experience, does
have a more profound effect. Thats part of what I do.
Thats good. Keep it up.
Jacobson: Im going to have to apologize
to those callers who are still holding because I have a few
questions that I must ask. Number one, do you have a contact
name and number if anyone wants to contact you?
Lazaroff: Well, you can reach me at 443-831-0932.
And I have a website. Herschel.net.
Jacobson: And a final question. What
suggestion can you make that people can take to begin a process
that obviously can be followed up through contacting you or
other bona fide healers?
Lazaroff: Well, you just said it. You
contact a healer. You contact myself or other people whom
youve heard about who have reputations, which is important.
But if you want something practical to take home or share
with a friend, I would suggest making a commitment to honor
yourself and to love yourself. When you love yourself, youll
be able to love others, and from that perspective you develop
a sense of worth and self-esteem and engender the feelings
that will help you heal and make yourself whole.
Jacobson: Thank you very much Herschel.
Its been a real honor to have you on the show. It just
shows how much more there is to talk about and I feel somewhat
frustrated in that sense. I want to thank all of our listeners
for listening to this show about healing and spirituality,
once again demonstrating that you cannot be complete or whole
or happy if you dont nourish your spirit as you do your
Have a good evening. See you again next week.